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we'd be looking at deficits. >> $6 billion to $8 billion. >> yes. basically what we have in this budget proposal, what the governor's put forth is essentially $4.1 billion more just to k-12 and higher education. breaks down roughly to about $1 billion to higher ed and $2.7 billion more going in in this forthcoming budget year for k-12. that money and the money that has been, has shored up this year's figures would be gone. it would not be there. and we'd be at the historic low spending that we have had for years. frankly, you know, he's contemplating having $2,700 more state funding per student by 2016-2017. we've been on the decline for that for years. we're somewhere down around 4 44t9th in per student state spending. this is going to lift us out of the pit. >> it has potential. people are looking the at this potential and say this could be the real deal but we have to wait to see the real numbers. >> exactly. >> it has been praised by a lot of people. >> from both sides of the aisle. >> both sides. the good news there, there's more good news, rig
we'd be looking at deficits. >> $6 billion to $8 billion. >> yes. basically what we have in this budget proposal, what the governor's put forth is essentially $4.1 billion more just to k-12 and higher education. breaks down roughly to about $1 billion to higher ed and $2.7 billion more going in in this forthcoming budget year for k-12. that money and the money that has been, has shored up this year's figures would be gone. it would not be there. and we'd be at the historic low...
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their rubies smaller running deficits but that was the course scope and size issue. they said it is semantics but that is not the case. lori: do they not like him because he is a tough negotiator? >> that is part of it. >> except john kerry every nomination is criticized even in hagel is not good enough. so the backdrop of the obama was working in with a first term and dynamics were different but that was a solid choice and we could have huge ffghts ahead of us. >> with the cuts coming he no -- we know he will support the spending increase. republicans argue the days of the surplus are long gone. he is in favor of a total reform? >> isn't that much tougher fight? >> it will be fight right -- jeff regardless. he has seen it done before. with 1983 james baker sat down with tip o'neill at 9:00 tonight and signed the final agreement. we don't have that environment anymore. maybe that is good for the sunshine law but with intense media scrutiny and day-to-day negotiations it is tougher to get the deal done. i would like for them to go to camp david for one week. lori: wit
their rubies smaller running deficits but that was the course scope and size issue. they said it is semantics but that is not the case. lori: do they not like him because he is a tough negotiator? >> that is part of it. >> except john kerry every nomination is criticized even in hagel is not good enough. so the backdrop of the obama was working in with a first term and dynamics were different but that was a solid choice and we could have huge ffghts ahead of us. >> with the...
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the deficit. is that really the objective? the concern is we are spending more than we take in. that is the case, there is a way of balancing that so that we take in more money, increasing revenue, and we reduce spending. there is a recipe for getting that done. in the conversation i had was speaker boehner by the end of the year, we became pretty close, a few hundred dollars -- a few hundred billion separating us. it seems as though what is motivating this from the house republicans is more than debt reduction. they have a vision about what government should and should not do. they are suspicious about government policy commitment to make sure that seniors have decent health care as they grow older. they have suspicions about social security. they have suspicions about whether government should make sure that kids in poverty are getting enough to eat or whether we should be spending money on medical research. they have a particular view about what government should do and should be. that deal was
the deficit. is that really the objective? the concern is we are spending more than we take in. that is the case, there is a way of balancing that so that we take in more money, increasing revenue, and we reduce spending. there is a recipe for getting that done. in the conversation i had was speaker boehner by the end of the year, we became pretty close, a few hundred dollars -- a few hundred billion separating us. it seems as though what is motivating this from the house republicans is more...
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they think the 1.2 is equal to the deficit. it's only 10% of the deficit. my solution is to raise taxes by $300 billion and cut spending by $900. -- by $900 billion. i find the american public is not very smart. host: you know, that is -- the educational question is a fundamental question. here's what happens. let's talk in practical terms and not a theoretical terms. when paul ryan came out with his budget, he had some substantial changes in medicare and medicaid. over time they would've been phased in. no one over the age of 55 would've been affected by them, giving you time to really prepare for your retirement. the changes were relatively minor in the short run, but compounded over the next 20 years would've made a real difference in our indebtedness. that is not the kind of debate we had last year either at the presidential or senatorial congressional level. it was this. people want to change medicare want to push ganny. off a people who want to change medicaid are hard hearted and don't care about poor people. we never had a debate on the fundamental
they think the 1.2 is equal to the deficit. it's only 10% of the deficit. my solution is to raise taxes by $300 billion and cut spending by $900. -- by $900 billion. i find the american public is not very smart. host: you know, that is -- the educational question is a fundamental question. here's what happens. let's talk in practical terms and not a theoretical terms. when paul ryan came out with his budget, he had some substantial changes in medicare and medicaid. over time they would've been...
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the consensus is we need 4 trillion dollars to stabilize the debt, deficit. that means we need 1.5 trillion dollars more. the package i authorized to the speaker before the new year would achieve that. we were actually fairly close in terms of arriving at that number. so if the goal is to make sure we're being responsible about the debt and the deficit, it that if the conversation we're having, i am happy to have that conversation. by closing additional loopholes through tax reform, which the speaker has acknowledged can raise money in a sensible way, and by doing some additional cuts, including making sure we are reducing the health care spending, the main driver of the deficit, we can arrive at a package to get this thing done. i am happy to have that conversation. what i will not do is to have that that negotiation with a gun at the head of the american people, the threat that unless we get our way, unless you have medicare or medicaid or otherwise/things that the american people do not believe should be slashed that we will threatened to wreck the entire
the consensus is we need 4 trillion dollars to stabilize the debt, deficit. that means we need 1.5 trillion dollars more. the package i authorized to the speaker before the new year would achieve that. we were actually fairly close in terms of arriving at that number. so if the goal is to make sure we're being responsible about the debt and the deficit, it that if the conversation we're having, i am happy to have that conversation. by closing additional loopholes through tax reform, which the...
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the deficit. there has probably been more pain and drama in getting there than we needed. so finishing the job shouldn't be that difficult if everybody comes to the conversation with an open mind and if we recognize that there's some things like not paying our bills that should be out of bounds. all right? i'm going to take one last question. jackie colmes. >> mr. president. >> yeah. >> i like to ask you, now that you reached the end of your first term, starting your second, about a couple of critsims. one longstanding, another more recent. the longstanding one seems to become a truism of sorts that you and your staff are too insular. that you don't socialize enough. and the second, more recent criticism that your team taking shape knit diverse, isn't as diverse as it could be or even was in terms of getting additional voices, gender, race, ethnic diversity. i would like you to address both of those. >> let me take the second one first. you know, i'm very proud in the first four years we had as di
the deficit. there has probably been more pain and drama in getting there than we needed. so finishing the job shouldn't be that difficult if everybody comes to the conversation with an open mind and if we recognize that there's some things like not paying our bills that should be out of bounds. all right? i'm going to take one last question. jackie colmes. >> mr. president. >> yeah. >> i like to ask you, now that you reached the end of your first term, starting your second,...
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i think a lot of what they complain about with respect to us, for example, our large fiscal deficits, one example, i think it would be in our interest to deal with. similarly, a lot of what we complain about with respect to them, their export-driven strategy, the absence of domestic demand, it's critically important to have sustainable growth going forward to deal with that issue. so i think we have a common self interest in dealing with many of the issues that we complain to each other about. >> what should be the core elements of a u.s.-china relationship going forward? >> the core elements of a cooperative u.s.-chinese relationship is in many respects in the communique by presidents obama and jintao of china, itemizing and developing several ears to be koob rating because it sets a framework, a framework in which the word partnership is really given meaning and a framework for something unprecedented in the history of human affairs, namely, when two major powers arise, they almost never collide. for the first time in history, america and china have the opportunity to avoid that, to
i think a lot of what they complain about with respect to us, for example, our large fiscal deficits, one example, i think it would be in our interest to deal with. similarly, a lot of what we complain about with respect to them, their export-driven strategy, the absence of domestic demand, it's critically important to have sustainable growth going forward to deal with that issue. so i think we have a common self interest in dealing with many of the issues that we complain to each other about....
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and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills, is irresponsible. it's absurd. we are not a deadbeat nation. >> thank goodness. but next, news flash, we already hit the ceiling two weeks ago. and the treasury's been using, quote, extraordinary measures to pay its bills. what does that even mean? the money shuffle can't last forever. the u.s. is out of money to pay its bills, it's already spent in less than four weeks. i have cousins that do that. they play to hold the debt ceiling hostage. aides say half the conference is ready to let the nation default. speaker boehner will school them on the real threat later this week. even a temporary extension for, say, two or three months could rattle the markets and threaten the nation's credit rating. last time they hashled out a debt deal? summer of 2011 and we ended up more than a trillion dollars in mandatory spending cuts and congress still hasn't addressed and delayed again until marc
and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills, is irresponsible. it's absurd. we are not a deadbeat nation. >> thank goodness. but next, news flash, we already hit the ceiling two weeks ago. and the treasury's been using, quote, extraordinary measures to pay its bills. what does that even mean? the money shuffle can't last forever. the u.s. is out of money to pay its bills, it's...
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if the issue is deficit reduction, getting our deficits sustainable over time, getting our debt in a sustainable place, then democrats and republicans in congress will have a partner with me. we can achieve that and we can achieve it fairly quickly. we know what the numbers are, we know what needs to be done, we know what a balanced approach would take. we've already done probably more than half of what we need to stabilize the debt and the deficit. there's probably been more pain and drama in getting there than we needed. and so finishing the job shouldn't be that difficult. if everybody comes to the conversation with an open mind, and if we recognize that there is some things like not paying our bills that should be out of bounds. i'm going to take one last question. jackie. >> i'd like to ask you, now that you reached the end of your first term, starting your second, about a couple of criticisms, one that's longstanding, another more recent. the longstanding one seems to become a truism of sorts that you and your staff are too insular, that you don't socialize enough. and the seco
if the issue is deficit reduction, getting our deficits sustainable over time, getting our debt in a sustainable place, then democrats and republicans in congress will have a partner with me. we can achieve that and we can achieve it fairly quickly. we know what the numbers are, we know what needs to be done, we know what a balanced approach would take. we've already done probably more than half of what we need to stabilize the debt and the deficit. there's probably been more pain and drama in...
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. >> i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce the deficit, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they have racked up. what i will not do is to have that negotiation with gun at the head of the people. >> dana: interesting choice of words to describe that. eric, you talked about not wanting the country to lurch from crisis to crisis. most americans would agree and want washington to fix fundamental problems. why do we have to have the debate every three months? >> eric: sure. start with the debt ceiling and how it came about. prior to world war i, everybody was paid. the debt we incurred was paid for through various bonds. world war i to world war ii, fdr got together with the treasury secretary and set let's put a debt ceiling op and they started to borrow money. that amount in 1949 was $45 billion. today, $16.4 trillion. that is 46,400% higher. between 1939 and 1980, we never exceeded $1 trillion in debt. now we push $17 trillion. the problem with the sound bite is president obama was the guy
. >> i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce the deficit, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they have racked up. what i will not do is to have that negotiation with gun at the head of the people. >> dana: interesting choice of words to describe that. eric, you talked about not wanting the country to lurch from crisis to crisis. most americans would agree and want washington to fix...
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but in this time of trillion dollar budget deficits bailouts and -- i think we have lost track of how much money it is. it comes to about $450 out of the budget of household in the country. that's tab for every household in america. $50. i don't think they begrudge a penny provided they were assured it was going for immediate emergency relief, and recovery. but looking at the package, $50 billion. $16 billion is to begin triple the amount being spent for community development block grant. we know what the program is. it's funded questionable projects as doggy daycare center in ohio, and a day at the circus in new york. the omb has repeatedly warned us that the program is in their words, ineffective. that is the bureaucracy's polite term for programs where they cannot trace the funding and cannot show any kind of effectivenesses. the legal authorization for this program expired in 1994, by this measure. as i said country triples. $2 billion is for road repair. including as he pointed out up to $20 million in guam the islands, and american samoa that aren't in the same ocean as hurrican
but in this time of trillion dollar budget deficits bailouts and -- i think we have lost track of how much money it is. it comes to about $450 out of the budget of household in the country. that's tab for every household in america. $50. i don't think they begrudge a penny provided they were assured it was going for immediate emergency relief, and recovery. but looking at the package, $50 billion. $16 billion is to begin triple the amount being spent for community development block grant. we...
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not when it comes to our nation's finances, but this trust deficit in washington. the republicans, you have the president, doing this, boom, and just how is this even going to play out over the next couple of weeks? >> well, you have the debt ceiling, which is the current fight. and what you have is confrontation, not conversation. how is it going to play out? again, the president believes he has the political high ground now and he believes he's -- he believes his position is right. that you don't want to negotiate over the debt ceiling, let's have a bigger conversation. the republicans, they control the house of representatives, they still have a decent chunk of votes, the democrats control the senate, they say no way, sir. and so you have this fight over the debt ceiling, but it is about bigger issues. the debt ceiling has nothing to do with immigration reform, nothing to do with the proposals on gun control, nothing to do with anything else the president might want to do in his second term, but guess what, it does affect the climate in washington. and the fact
not when it comes to our nation's finances, but this trust deficit in washington. the republicans, you have the president, doing this, boom, and just how is this even going to play out over the next couple of weeks? >> well, you have the debt ceiling, which is the current fight. and what you have is confrontation, not conversation. how is it going to play out? again, the president believes he has the political high ground now and he believes he's -- he believes his position is right. that...
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wilson finds zach miller in the back of the end zone, the seahawks cut the deficit to six points. seahawks still down by six with less than a minute to play on third and five, wilson avoids the sack, flips it out to marshon lynch who takes it down the sideline and gets the seahawks inside the 4 yard line. two plays later, lynch bulls his way in for the touchdown. he fumbled as he broke the plain, but the play was upheld on review. seahawks take the lead on the extra point. the falcons are on the verge of an epic collapse, but they get into field goal range with 13 seconds to play. matt ryan, with the 49-yarder to take the lead. and pete carroll had called a time out before the ball was kicked. another shot at it, this time he puts it through the uprights. last chance for the seahawks, wilson throws up the hail mary to the end zone, but julio jones, the star wide receiver comes down with the interception to end the game. falcons win in dramatic fashion, 30-28 to get to their first nfc championship game since 1999. after the game, quarterback matt ryan spoke about his winning first
wilson finds zach miller in the back of the end zone, the seahawks cut the deficit to six points. seahawks still down by six with less than a minute to play on third and five, wilson avoids the sack, flips it out to marshon lynch who takes it down the sideline and gets the seahawks inside the 4 yard line. two plays later, lynch bulls his way in for the touchdown. he fumbled as he broke the plain, but the play was upheld on review. seahawks take the lead on the extra point. the falcons are on...
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there's actually been several rounds of deficit reduction worth reviewing. back in 2010 and '11, they put a bunch of continuing resolutions or kind of spending caps onto mostly discretionary programs. in 2011 when we had the debt ceiling debacle, they agreed to the budget control act which was another billion dollars, roughly, of cuts. again, mostly from if not entirely from discretionary programs. and then, of course, we had the fiscal cliff which was $650 billion of revenue increases. so so far, we've actually had $2.4 trillion over a ten-year period of deficit reduction. but about 30% of it has come from rev lienue increases and at the other 70% from come from spending cuts. entirely from discretionary programs. >> what's the budget control act? >> it's what came out of the last debt ceiling debacle when the republicans and the democrats agreed on this trillion dollars of roughly discretionary -- all discretionary spending reductions. but the point is, none of this really touches entitlements. none of it touches the mandatory. and its $2.4 trillion. >> wh
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they have had multibillion-dollar deficits in the past. what i like to do, some of my friends who don't believe taxes matter including the guy in the white house, i say if you don't think taxes matter and affect behavior, explain to me, bill, why it is there has been about 500,000 new jobs over the last 10 years created in texas with no income tax and where california lost about 500,000 jobs? there is lot of factors but i think taxes are one of them. bill: 13% for california. if that is the case they leapfrogged hawaii. matt, give you the last point. if bobby jindal gets his way do folks in louisiana have a better chance at tracking jobs? >> absolutely yes. look at call to, what jerry brown is doing is short-term fix. bringing money by increasing taxes but the long-term effect jobs will leave, people will leave and hurt the economy long term. bill: matt, thank you. steve moore, thank you as well. e-mail is hemmer@foxnews.com. viewers on home on twitter that follow me, @billhemmer, file your one word, not one word, one line. martha: one wor
they have had multibillion-dollar deficits in the past. what i like to do, some of my friends who don't believe taxes matter including the guy in the white house, i say if you don't think taxes matter and affect behavior, explain to me, bill, why it is there has been about 500,000 new jobs over the last 10 years created in texas with no income tax and where california lost about 500,000 jobs? there is lot of factors but i think taxes are one of them. bill: 13% for california. if that is the...
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number of people who say, well, he's got to get the fiscal house in order, he's got to deal with the deficit. why is that important? >> i think it's important to design a sound fiscal program that both contributes to job creation and recovery in the short term, i absolutely believe programs do that by creating confidence and creating fiscal room for a moderate stimulus. and also meets long term imperative for addressing what i believe is an unsustainable and dangerous fiscal trajectory. in order to put ourselves on a sound fiscal footing, we're going to have to have substantially more revenues and more revenues means higher taxes whether it's the tax rates or reduced deduction, one or the other, that clearly is going to be a cost absorbed by those who pay the taxes, there are going to have to be constraints on our programs. that's what you have to do if you're going to get on a sound fiscal path, the longer you wait, the deeper your whole gets the harder it is to retain confidence. >> it's time to redue the country's convoluted tax system. the u.s. tax code is now 73,000 pages long. paul o'n
number of people who say, well, he's got to get the fiscal house in order, he's got to deal with the deficit. why is that important? >> i think it's important to design a sound fiscal program that both contributes to job creation and recovery in the short term, i absolutely believe programs do that by creating confidence and creating fiscal room for a moderate stimulus. and also meets long term imperative for addressing what i believe is an unsustainable and dangerous fiscal trajectory....
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he knew that wasn't true and the deficit has gone through the roof and he said this to congress, deficit has gone through the roof since then. so he really -- there are a lot of republicans and one democrat, but there are a lot of republicans that didn't like his testimony. his testimony was false. and we'll see what happens. he's going to probably get the -- he's going to get it. a lot of things aren't being stopped. the republicans have not found a good way to stop things. and i'm not sure necessarily he should get stopped. this was the president's choice. the president did win the election. the president does have the right to make appointments and this is one of his appointments. but what he told congress was totally false and probably knowingly false. >> steve: i'm sure when he's called before that senate committee he's gog have an explanation of what he meant then and what he means now. >> they were tough statements and terrible statements and they couldn't have been more wrong. >> steve: yeah. turns out to be that case. all right. mr. trump, thank you very much. have a great week.
he knew that wasn't true and the deficit has gone through the roof and he said this to congress, deficit has gone through the roof since then. so he really -- there are a lot of republicans and one democrat, but there are a lot of republicans that didn't like his testimony. his testimony was false. and we'll see what happens. he's going to probably get the -- he's going to get it. a lot of things aren't being stopped. the republicans have not found a good way to stop things. and i'm not sure...
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yeah, you know, still in atlanta where the celebrating is going on for falcons fans harris, a 20-0 deficit. en russell wilson, down 14-0 and led them back to victory and took the lead, the seahawks did with 31 seconds left with the atlanta falcons into the next round, the championship game where they will host and a big win for matt ryan, his first career playoff victory and that's important, because he was drafted in the first round to kind of resurrect the falcon franchise after michael vick had the disastrous mess that took them downward. and we're looking at the winning field goal. and the nfc championship is set. and the 9ers handled green bay last night. what kind of matchup are we talking about here? >> a good regional matchup. southeast and then the falcons and atlanta against the west coast and 49ers. jim harbaugh has a second year quarterback, colin kaepernick who ran the ball well and as a starter, and some people thought it was a foolish gamble, but worked so far, he obviously can throw the ball as well and then, you have the falcons who will be at home and i have to say it was
yeah, you know, still in atlanta where the celebrating is going on for falcons fans harris, a 20-0 deficit. en russell wilson, down 14-0 and led them back to victory and took the lead, the seahawks did with 31 seconds left with the atlanta falcons into the next round, the championship game where they will host and a big win for matt ryan, his first career playoff victory and that's important, because he was drafted in the first round to kind of resurrect the falcon franchise after michael vick...
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. >> reporter: president obama stating very clearly today that he will not negotiate deficit reduction, tax increases and spending cuts attached to the debt ceiling. this of course does follow that bruising battle the year before last, where he did negotiate on the issue, and the u.s. nearly went to the brink of default. he said that congress has to pay the bills that it's already racked up. >> you don't go out to dinner and then, you know, eat all you want and then leave without paying the check. and if you do, you're breaking the law. and congress should think about it the same way that the american people do. you don't -- now, if congress want, to have a debate about maybe we shouldn't go out to dinner next time, maybe we should go to a more modest restaurant, that's fine. that's the debate that we should have. >> reporter: in this press conference that was called last minute in the east room, president obama said he will negotiate a deal on deficit reduction but not, as he put it, quote, with a gun to the head of the american people. as you know, joe, republicans are saying they're
. >> reporter: president obama stating very clearly today that he will not negotiate deficit reduction, tax increases and spending cuts attached to the debt ceiling. this of course does follow that bruising battle the year before last, where he did negotiate on the issue, and the u.s. nearly went to the brink of default. he said that congress has to pay the bills that it's already racked up. >> you don't go out to dinner and then, you know, eat all you want and then leave without...
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we are working hard to reduce the deficit, not expand it. second, the administration does not support blowing up planets. third, why would we spend countless taxpayer dollars that could be exploited by a one-man starship. if you pursue a career in a math relead field, the force will be us. the death star's power to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force. bravo to the white house for putting that out. it's filled well inside references to star wars movies. we tweeted a link where you can read the whole thing. blue rapid says it's $850 quadrillion by the way. now you know how fast it would cost. >> somebody studied how much it would cost. they have hot links throughout the article. >> it's amazing. >> it's a great piece. >>@bp show on twitter. >> all right. >> death star. >> we have a death star. we have no trillion dollar coin. all of the fun stuff. over the weekend. >> franklin mint. >> this is "the bill press show." going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is
we are working hard to reduce the deficit, not expand it. second, the administration does not support blowing up planets. third, why would we spend countless taxpayer dollars that could be exploited by a one-man starship. if you pursue a career in a math relead field, the force will be us. the death star's power to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force. bravo to the white house for putting that out. it's filled well inside references to star wars movies. we tweeted a...